UFO Investigation Is In The News

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  1. Wreckless

    Wreckless Junior Acolyte

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    Pentagon’s mysterious project breathes new life into UFO research

    That’s what investigative journalist and author Leslie Kean says of UFOs.

    “It’s completely rational to be interested and to try to figure out what’s going on with this,” she told WTOP.


    Kean co-authored a stunning article in The New York Times late last year that revealed the existence of the Pentagon’s secret project to investigate unidentified flying objects — the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).

    Months later, this is still earth-shaking news to those eager for the truth.

    That’s because the last known government program to investigate UFO encounters — the Air Force’s Project Blue Book — officially ended almost 50 years ago in 1969.

    “The researchers in this area have always speculated and wondered what is going on behind the scenes. Is there a government investigation into this? And now we know that the answer is yes,” Kean said. “It just establishes a credibility for the topic for people to know that our government takes it seriously enough to have put financial resources into it and to have studied it for all these years.”

    According to the Times, $22 million was spent on AATIP from 2007 through the end of 2011. And although the funding stopped, Kean says the project did not.

    “We know that this program existed, it still exists, and it investigated military cases and very significant cases of pilot encounters with these objects,” said Kean, who authored the 2010 New York Times best-selling book “UFOs: Generals, Pilots, and Government Officials Go on The Record.”

    Kean wants to make something clear: Unidentified flying objects are not necessarily spacecraft piloted by extraterrestrials.

    “You can’t take the leap of looking at something that’s unexplained and then assuming that it’s alien,” she said.

    But one of the encounters AATIP investigated involved UFOs that appeared to do incredible things no known aircraft is capable of.

    About 13 years ago, numerous members of the military spotted mystery objects off the coast of San Diego.

    “These objects in this one incident in 2004 were actually observed coming in from outer space. They came in and then they went out, up into the sky. So whatever that means, that’s what happened. They were also seen able to move very, very, very fast from one space to another. Way faster than any airplane could do,” said Kean.

    The Pentagon program’s conclusions, if any, are not known, and Kean says more people should be studying UFOs without fear of ridicule.

    “Professional people feel like they’re going to be laughed at, and it’s the same problem for scientists and academic institutions and universities and research facilities who want to work on this topic, but they feel that it would be detrimental to their careers. So it continues to be a problem, unfortunately,” Kean said.

    “But I really hope it’s changing, and I think it is.”

    Editor’s note: This is the first story in a three-part series about UFOs, studies into them and local sightings.

    https://wtop.com/government/2018/03...-project-breathes-new-life-into-ufo-research/
     
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    Just listened to a fascinating two parter on this subject on the Astonishing Legends podcast.

    One of their researchers is the new director of research at mufon. Just about to listen to an interview with him.
     
  3. INT21

    INT21 Justified & Ancient

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    ...About 13 years ago, numerous members of the military spotted mystery objects off the coast of San Diego...

    The location could be very significant in this case.

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  4. Ermintruder

    Ermintruder Existential pixelfixer

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    LOCATION:
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    Agreed. The US Naval base there is of huge strategic importance, at least on a terrestrial/conventional scale. It is, therefore, an expected target of interest from other non-allied nations.

    Wouldn't it be fascinating to discover that there are similar phenomena occuring off Murmansk and the Kola penninsula? Or at Shandong/Guandong/Nampo? But just under-reported?
     
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    eburacum Papo-furado

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    I suspect that idiot Kean is talking about the 2004 Nimitz incident. The Metabunk analysis is very good; the few seconds of film we have access to seems to show a fairly conventional aircraft, although there is some suggestion that it may have been a submarine launched drone.
    https://www.metabunk.org/2004-uss-nimitz-tic-tac-ufo-flir-footage.t9190/

    The Nimitz was in a test range, one of several in that part of the ocean. I suspect that they were observing tests of equipment in a neighbouring test range, but they were not informed abut the nature of those tests for some reason.
    This post from Metabunk makes a similar conjecture.
    https://www.metabunk.org/2004-uss-nimitz-tic-tac-ufo-flir-footage.t9190/page-5#post-217604
     
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    https://nypost.com/2018/03/10/footage-of-mysterious-object-above-ocean-stuns-military-personnel/

    Footage of mysterious object above ocean stuns military personnel



    Newly-released video of a mysterious object streaking over the Atlantic Ocean shows the Pentagon needs to take UFOs seriously, a researcher says.

    The sensational two-minute clip captured by a camera aboard a US Navy F/A 18 jet flying at 25,000 feet wowed military personnel.

    “What the f— is that thing?” shouted the pilot in the video posted online by the To the Stars Academy of Arts and Science, a private research company.

    “Oh my gosh dude!” exclaimed the jet’s weapons systems officer.

    The video was shot off the East Coast in 2015. To the Stars Academy did not say how it obtained the declassified footage, but said others could obtain it through a Freedom of Information Act request.

    Three videos showing similar incidents became public last year in reports of $22 million in Pentagon spending on UFO research.

    The videos, along with observations by pilots and radar operators, “appear to provide evidence of the existence of aircraft far superior to anything possessed by the United States or its allies,” writes Christopher Mellon, a former defense official in the George W. Bush and Clinton administrations and an adviser to To the Stars Academy.
     
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    eburacum Papo-furado

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    Once again, Metabunk are making good progress in analysing this film. The object seems to be about 6ft wide, and moving at around 70mph with respect to the sea ( most of the apparent motion is caused by the movement of the plane, 253 knots in the opposite direction). This is consistent with a sea bird such as an albatross, but since we don't know where it was filmed it might need to be a different species.
    https://www.metabunk.org/go-fast-footage-from-tom-delonges-to-the-stars-academy-bird.t9569/
     
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    eburacum Papo-furado

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  9. Wreckless

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    UFOs are suddenly a serious news story — you can thank the guy from Blink-182 for that

    At the turn of the millennium, Blink-182 was everywhere. On the cover of the pop-punk band's smash album, "Enema of the State," a busty nurse with a lustful grin snapped on a latex glove. At MTV beach concerts, sunburned masses moshed to the No. 1 hit "All the Small Things." But frontman Tom DeLonge — the one with the angsty, adolescent singing voice — had been nurturing an offstage hobby that was decidedly out of the mainstream.

    With his first record-deal payout as a fledgling teenage rock star, DeLonge had bought a computer to research the prospect of intelligent life beyond Earth. And after Blink-182 made him a fortune, he further indulged his fascination with the paranormal.

    He co-wrote a 700-page novel about UFOs.

    He brainstormed a film about skateboarders who become paranormal detectives.

    He produced websites buzzing with stories about Bigfoot and disintegrating mummies.

    Now in his early 40s, with his music career cooled but his financial resources apparently intact, DeLonge has channeled those bizarre passions into his next act.

    You've seen it without knowing it. Remember that wild news in December about a secret Pentagon UFO program? And those grainy military videos showing radar images of unexplained phenomena — white, Tic-Tac-shaped objects that appear to fly at remarkable speeds, at impossible angles, without wings or exhaust?

    Tom DeLonge helped ring the alarm about those things, as part of his new business venture: To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science. For his advisory board, DeLonge recruited physicists, aerospace experts and former Department of Defense officials, who have been talking publicly about UFOs and arguing that the government has failed to fully investigate them.

    In the past six months, DeLonge's associates have appeared on CNN and Fox News, written for The Washington Post and been cited in the New York Times —usually in the context of those eerie videos.

    "What the f--- is that thing?" a Navy pilot says in a video released by To The Stars in March, but perhaps the more pertinent question is: How the f--- did the guy from Blink-182 get wrapped up in it?

    'Perpetual funding machine'
    Rich men have the luxury of looking to the stars for investment and wish fulfillment. SpaceX founder Elon Musk wants to colonize Mars. Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen wants to make interplanetary travel cheap and routine. Amazon chief executive Jeffrey Bezos, who owns The Washington Post, envisions moving industry off Earth and shipping products down from space.

    Tom DeLonge says he wants to build "a perpetual funding machine" to investigate UFOs and thereby advance our own species.

    At a launch event for To The Stars Academy in Seattle last fall, he explained that he was expanding his small entertainment venture — which has mostly published his graphic novels and books about UFOs and the paranormal — into a far more ambitious scientific operation, to explore "the most controversial secret on Earth."

    DeLonge, who declined to comment for this article, explained at the launch that he had used his fame to meet with the keepers of that secret, in "clandestine encounters" in "desert airports" and "vacant buildings deep within Washington D.C."

    Some of those people sat behind DeLonge onstage, including former intelligence officer Luis Elizondo, the former director of a hush-hush UFO program at the Pentagon.

    "The phenomenon is indeed real," Elizondo said when it was his turn to speak. Just days before, the 22-year Defense Department veteran had submitted a resignation letter to the Pentagon, citing its disregard of "overwhelming evidence" that unexplained phenomena have been interfering with the U.S. military.

    Elizondo had overseen the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, quietly created in 2007 by then-Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid, D-Nev., with the encouragement of a reclusive Nevada billionaire named Robert Bigelow. Like DeLonge, Bigelow made his fortune through earthly pursuits (real estate) but was fascinated by the otherworldly; he had funded research into crop and cattle mutilations. After he got Reid's attention, Bigelow's aerospace company then won the $22 million contract to run the Pentagon's secret program, as first reported by the New York Times late last year. (Reid and Bigelow did not respond to requests for comment.)

    Despite its peculiar mandate, Bigelow Aerospace's output was typical of federal bureaucracy: It produced paper. There was a 490-page report on alleged UFO sightings, and a series of studies on experimental physics. One study written for the Defense Intelligence Agency ("Traversable Wormholes, Stargates, and Negative Energy") urged federal research into interstellar travel and was illustrated with a childish drawing of a dinosaur greeting Albert Einstein through a hole in the space-time continuum.

    https://www.stripes.com/news/us/ufo...hank-the-guy-from-blink-182-for-that-1.530224

     
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