Serial Killers

Discussion in 'Fortean Crime' started by harlequin2005, Apr 17, 2002.

  1. Yithian

    Yithian Intergalactic Space Crusader Staff Member

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    I think as long as the person arrested is unnamed and we stick to the reported facts, we should be on safe ground.
     
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  2. Cochise

    Cochise Justified & Ancient

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    It's not unprecedented - Beverley Allitt. It doesn't mean the NHS encourages serial killers to join, it's just that it employs so many people there will occasionally be a monster among them.
     
  3. ramonmercado

    ramonmercado CyberPunk

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    We don't know that there is a serial killer yet. Even if there is, he/she couldn't have operated for so long without the indifference of the hospital management to incredible mortality rate amongst infants.
     
  4. Yithian

    Yithian Intergalactic Space Crusader Staff Member

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    No, we don't know. But if nobody is named and no charges are brought, there is no harm done here.

    Or am I missing something?
     
  5. ramonmercado

    ramonmercado CyberPunk

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    Perhaps we should be saying alleged serial killer. I very much doubt if anyone here has read the detailed reports
     
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  6. Quake42

    Quake42 Warrior Princess

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    The nurse has been named. I won’t repeat the name here as I agree with Ramon that it is inappropriate to demonise the individual when she hasn’t even been charged. The allegations are shocking if true.
     
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  7. ramonmercado

    ramonmercado CyberPunk

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    The allegations are indeed shocking.

    It's not just about demonisation either, there's also the possibility of libel or collapsing a trial. Now you might think that the FTMB being so small could ever have an effect but it's the potential audience which counts.

    The FTMB has over 33,000 members, now the vast majority of them are long gone but they are still on the books. So that's quite a significant potential viewing public for any comment in the eyes of the law.

    Maybe the mods could perhaps archive any accounts which haven't been active for more than two years.
     
  8. Quake42

    Quake42 Warrior Princess

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    Details of the arrested person are all over the major UK newspapers so I think any references on the FTMB are unlikely to be the cause of any difficulties with the trial. However the sudden appearance of the individual’s name and details of their Facebook account is reminiscent of not just of Christopher Jefferies in Bristol but another nurse - Rebecca Leighton - who was wrongly accused of murdering patients and who claimed that the police asked for her FB password before changing the privacy settings to allow all and sundry to view it.

    Very unprofessional.
     
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  9. Swifty

    Swifty Generation Y

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    Yup .. the Daily Fail had her name and picture splashed on their front page today .. not charged ? .. leave her alone. .. and she's been described as geeky and, shock horror, a pole dancer enthusiast ..

    I'm geeky and a video nasty enthusiast into weird Fortean crap who smokes the odd spliff when no one's looking so if any suspicious deaths happen in North Norfolk, make sure you all phone The Daily Mail about me ..
     
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  10. ramonmercado

    ramonmercado CyberPunk

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    Not in this case but a comment here could cause damage to the publishers way above the active membership.

    Lawyers would cite a potential readership of 33,000+.
     
  11. Quake42

    Quake42 Warrior Princess

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    Yeah, not just the Mail. Pretty much every media outlet in the UK, including the BBC, has reported this. I think the Times published first thogh..
     
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  12. Swifty

    Swifty Generation Y

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    I know it's a completely different thing but this is the same thing some men have to go through, usually celebrity, when wrongly accused of rape .. trial by media .. she needs to be left alone, hopefully she'll sue if she's innocent ..
     
  13. Mythopoeika

    Mythopoeika I am a meat popsicle

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    She actually doesn't look like a serial killer.
    I know, I know, appearances can be deceptive.
    The press should be applying caution right now.
     
  14. hunck

    hunck Justified & Ancient

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    This is a fairly grim tale from S.Carolina.

    A young couple go missing, 2 months go by, their facebook page is updated but it's not them, their last mobile phone location eventually leads police to the remote house of seemingly respectable estate agent Todd Kohlhepp. They discover the missing man's car hidden under foliage then hear banging from a metal storage container. Chained up inside is the missing woman. He'd shot & killed the man.

    It then transpires that he'd previously killed 6 others, maybe more, had served 14 years in prison from the age of 15 for kidnap & rape, & was a registered sex offender. He had a history of violence going back to childhood.

    You'd think a registered sex offender would be a prime subject of interest but he seems to have slipped under the radar somehow. He got 7 consecutive life sentences with no chance of parole in May 2017.
     
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    A Japanese nurse admits to murders.

    A former nurse has confessed to poisoning at least 20 patients at a Japanese hospital by injecting their intravenous drips with disinfectant.

    Ayumi Kuboki, 31, was arrested on Saturday by police investigating a string of suspicious deaths at Yokohama’s Oguchi hospital in 2016.

    Under questioning, she admitted poisoning 88-year-old Sozo Nishikawa by injecting his IV drip with antiseptic solution.

    Traces of benzalkonium chloride, a compound used in common hospital disinfectants, were found in his body, as well as in the body of another elderly patient who died in the same hospital room two days later. The discovery sparked a police investigation focussed on the possibility that a staff member was behind the deaths.

    Kuboki confessed to “repeatedly” tampering with the drip bags of around 20 patients, but investigators suspect she may have fatally poisoned dozens more.

    http://www.theweek.co.uk/94965/japa...letter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter
     
  16. James_H

    James_H And I like to roam the land

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    Is there a way we can blame this on the NHS?
     
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    maximus otter Recovering policeman

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    Not enough dead.

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  18. Swifty

    Swifty Generation Y

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    Not serial killer stuff technically but here's a newish dramatisation of the Manson family murders narrated by Linda Kasabian ..

     
  19. Mikefule

    Mikefule Michael Wilkinson

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    A very quick search shows that in 2012, there were 747,408 registered sex offenders in the USA, and at that time the figure was increasing year on year. I'd guess there may be around a million by now. Add to that the fact that probably most sex offenders haven't been convicted and registered, and many are not even suspected. It would not be a matter of trawling though thousands in the hope of a match, but looking at the evidence in the individual case and then seeing if there was a possible match.
     
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    Tribble Furry Idiot

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    GNC King-Sized Canary

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    As a (possibly facetious) aside, does this mean Santa Claus in the future will be treated the same way as clowns are now?
     
  22. James_H

    James_H And I like to roam the land

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    There's a film called Silent Night Deadly Night that features a Santa serial killer. There was a moral outrage about it in the USA during the 80s. Seems pretty mild now.

    And Tales from the Crypt is possibly the first film with a killer Santa (mentioned on the Horror Films thread recently).

    So Evil Santa may be the next big thing in social (media) panics.
     

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