Pornography & ESP

Discussion in 'Parapsychology' started by kevinjwoods, Aug 18, 2016.

  1. EnolaGaia

    EnolaGaia I knew the job was dangerous when I took it ... Staff Member

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    Point taken ... I checked, there is no revised edition listed for this book, and one must conclude the allusion in the Spencer book is not to the more recent work by Daryl Bem.

    SIDE NOTE: I made a point to check another paranormal compendium with an identical title by Rosemary Guiley, in case the OP was referring to that book rather than the Spencers'. Guiley's book contains no mention of erotic / sexual / pornographic anything.

    Having said that ... The perceived utility of using erotic (and / or other emotion-inducing) images in psychological experimentation on emotion, attention, and arousal dates back a long way. For example, Bem's much-publicized experiment(s) relied on images drawn from the International Affective Picture System (aka IAPS), which was in widespread use over 35 years ago.
     
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    There's no need to 'shout' ... :evillaugh:

    Whether or not we were talking about Daryl Bem's work before, we're certainly doing so now ...

    The article cited is not 'upcoming' - it was published in 2011. It was an overview report on a suite of experiments run during the first decade of this century, and it's accessible via the updated link I posted in post #30.

    In the years since the experiments and eventual publication(s), the work has been subjected to severe criticism - not only from diehard skeptics, but also from other experimental psychologists.

    The resulting debates haven't wholly focused on whether or not ESP has been 'proven', because ...

    The reference to 'methodology' in your quote is quite apt, because these experiments were specifically devised to pass muster on canonical methodological grounds. As it turned out, this good news was outweighed by the flip-side bad news - i.e., that this suite of experiments demonstrated deep problems with presumptions about experimental design and the validity / reliability of results.

    In other words, the academic audience realized the thing most clearly demonstrated was that strict adherence to methodological rigor didn't necessarily imply reliability of the results - especially after multiple attempts to replicate Bem's experiments precisely yielded null (or even opposite) results.

    This in turn led to suspicions (within the academic psychology community) that highlighting the methodological issues may have been the point Bem set out to make in the first place.

    For an overview of the whole convoluted story, check this May 2017 cover story from Slate:

    Daryl Bem Proved ESP Is Real
    Which means science is broken.


    https://slate.com/health-and-scienc...ved-esp-is-real-showed-science-is-broken.html
     
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    I AM TRYING TO REPLY TO THIS POST AND IT WAS ERASED - WHY?
     
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  4. EnolaGaia

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    ??? ... What was erased? The post to which you were replying, or the body of your reply?
     
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    Wrote a fairly long reply with a quote - Then, as I always do, attempted to copy it to avoid having it lost
    - copying it erased it and I could not get it back - glitch somewhere ? - I'll try again later.
     
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    It's usually the case that FTMB goes down for daily maintenance (whatever ... ) circa 2000 - 2030 Eastern (US) time. The outage typically lasts around 10 - 15 minutes. I didn't notice the usual 'dead space' this evening at the usual time. Maybe the outage occurred earlier tonight (i.e., when you were attempting to post).
     
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    OK - cool

    Now we can get back to the issue at hand - I'll sum it up this way: What is the significance of
    pornography and 'esp {the occult} phenomena'?

    And why I said we all missed the significance of the original OP.

    My thesis/contention is that the erotic force that allows biological entities to procreate {breed} is highly
    significant and pervasive - It is more than just the way we perpetuate life - More than just sex
    - it is an 'intelligence' and power of mind phenomena.

    Occultists from the past recognized this - And Sigmund Freud, the 20th Century psychologist , made a
    big issue in his Freudian concepts of Human behaviour.

    Today, in a world obsessed with sex, it is easy to dismiss most Human sexuality as academic and
    insignificant.

    My contention is that Human sexuality is much more than breeding
    - It is a force, a thinking force and power that generates 'Mind' power.

    The fact that ESP mind power can be demonstrated is hardly surprising.

    And a 'sixth sense' can also be expected.
     
  8. jimv1

    jimv1 Analogue Boy

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    Because we’ve all joined SPACE FORCE and it’s now classified.
     
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    Swifty Generation Y

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    AlchoPwn Abominable Snowman

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    IDK about full blown (phrasing, sry) psychokinesis, but there is a link between porn and ghostly rapping noises.

    So y'all joined SPACE FORCE too? I'm going ROTC stream! Jet-boots an' all man!
     
  11. James_H

    James_H And I like to roam the land

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    Is this to do with the Tupac sex tape?
     
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