Please Help. Can't Find Psychic Who Can Actually See (For Years)

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  1. contact

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    I have specially registered here to post this message. The essence of this message – to ask for help. My short story, which I write later – it’s explanation what I’m looking here for and why. I would be grateful for all people, who will respond with willingness to give any help to me. And I apologize for my broken English – I’m not a native speaker.


    Many years ago, more the 15 years back actually, I got some illness. Moment when it came to my life divided my life into two parts – “before” and “after”. Gradually symptoms became so bad and fundamental, that threw out me from the “normal life” completely – for the last years I can’t do any job and do many even simple things. I write “illness”, because the name of “this” is unknown to me. During many years and a lot of attempts I discovered the total inability not only to cure “this”, but even to know what “this” is really is. I obviously is facing something unknown to modern medical science and unclassified by it.


    After many years of attempts to find any relief through “official medicine” I decided to turn to “alternative medicine”. And added more years of attempts trying “alternative” diagnosis and treatments methods. There were a lot of things here – almost everything you can think of, even if you know a lot about “alternative” fields. The result of all of this is the same of result of trying to find help from “official medicine” – I’m not better and still don’t have any idea what is wrong with me.


    The next part of my years-long searches is close to the reason of writing this message. Of course, I have met a lot of people, who told a lot of stories about people which “extra” abilities. Who, broadly speaking, can “clair-“ “see”, “hear”, “know” and a lot of other “extra” staff. And who really help people. And I thought – maybe, if such people really exist (look at amount of case stories!), than maybe someone will be able at least to give me some direction (be it “seeing” or whatever) what is wrong with me? And I started to try to find such people and ask for help. To present moment, I have asked for help from more the 50 such people from more than 10 countries. Some of them really unique in their societies. And some of them really known worldwide. But others, to the contrary, were absolutely unknown to masses, which made them even more interesting in mane aspects. And what is result of all this attempts… If short, than super demotivating… And the reason of demotivation is not the fact that I didn’t find the help. Nooo – everything is much worse. During all this years I have never met someone who in any way demonstrated his “extra” abilities. No one ever told me what is wrong with me. But what is much worse, no one ever produced any piece of potentially verifiable information which turned true. Nothing, which I could make at least small, but a hope, that there is any potential chance to find anything of help in this “world of people which extra abilities”.


    I can tell, that BEFORE all this visits and travels I was much more a believer that such phenomens can truly exist that I’m now. My personal experience influences this believe very badly.


    And now to the essence of my message. For all this people I always came with respect and a hope. So, I never put the question is style “prove for me!”. I only came, asked for help, listened carefully and did what I have been told to. And only as a result of this I seen, that not only I didn’t receive any help, but I didn’t receive even slightest prove that this person “see” anything beyond “normal” human abilities.


    Ma My situating is very poor. I have spent years and years in the beginning to discover that modern medicine science can’t help me in any way. I surrendered.. Than I got a new hope, that maybe I will find some help from people with “special powers”. And I again spent years and years… To get same devastating result. But now is much worse – now I really don’t know where to go…


    And that is why I decided to try to write here – what I’m asking and looking for – is to find ray of hope. At least small ray of hope – which can show me, that there is at least any sense in trying to continue my attempts and search further. Please, if this will be read by someone, who think that he/she can “show” me that “special powers” truly exist in any form, than this can be for one person (me) a true treasure. This can be a ray of hope – and this can show me, that I can continue my search and attempts – that this is not completely useless. The internet is full of stories of people who can “see” the past of a person and correctly tell it. Maybe someone can do such thing for me? Or something else, which is also straightforward clear…


    Please, if you can “show” me that such thing really exist in this world, please, write me Personal Message here or contact.001 “at” mail.ru – this would be precious for me.


    Thank you for reading this!
     
  2. EnolaGaia

    EnolaGaia I knew the job was dangerous when I took it ... Staff Member

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    First things first ...

    What is the nature of the 'illness' that motivated you to seek help in the first place?
     
  3. contact

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    Dear EnolaGaia, thank you for replying. But I don't think that this is important in relation to my question - I told this story just to show some background. Of how I came to visiting all this numerous people...

    What I'm really try to understand now after all this years of searching - have I been deeply unlucky that out of 50+ people whom I seen in last 4 years noboby showed anything that usualy attributed to people whith "special powers"? I must tell that I deeply hope, that YES - that I was just unlucky and got some wrong set of people... And that is what my question is about...
     
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    EnolaGaia I knew the job was dangerous when I took it ... Staff Member

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    Then let's hear some specifics about whom you've contacted, how you interacted with them, and what type(s) of psychic or other 'powers' they were alleged to possess.

    No clues = no answers ...
     
  5. contact

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    Roughly I can divide all people with alleged "special powers" whom I've met in such categories:


    1) Healers with very different methods.


    I don't include here "standard" alternative medicine practioners like Traditional Chinese Medicine, Ayurveda, Tibetan Medicine etc. – only “special powers healers”).


    Here are many different stories – many Filipino healers (including ones who don’t charge money and live in villages in Philippines). Pranic healers (several with different methods). Several shamanic healers of different traditions (Tibetan Chod Healer from Nepal, Siberian shaman, Tibetan Nagpa practioner). A pair of different Reiki-type healing methods (usually practiced by “Psychics”, not “healers”, but anyway). And also a list of others “paranormal” healing methods which can’t be classified (at least by me – each of them looks very unique).


    What types of “powers” they were alleged to possess: all of them, of course, though to have ability to cure people illnesses. And majority of them stated that they can diagnose the problem/problems which you have and find “root cause”.


    2) Medical Intuitives


    Here people who didn’t supposed to have ability to cure illness (at least, directly), but who can “see”, “sense” or by other means “know” what is wrong, why is wrong and help you with this information, directions and advices. This also answers question what types of “powers” whey were alleged to possess.


    3) People with Extrasensory Perception in a broad sense of this term


    Here I include people who don’t state that they cure, but do state that they can know and know a lot more about you and your life that is possible from normal means. And through this can help you and guide you in different ways. Here were also a lot of different types of methods. I have seen people who were supposedly getting their information from “angels” or “higher forces”. People, who were putting the aid into trance and “higher forces” were telling something through this person in trance. People, who just have ‘seen’ something by themselves. People, who use some ‘instruments’ in order to help them to ‘see’ and ‘now’ (such as, for example, Tarot cards, Pendulums etc).



    You also wrote question “How you interacted with them”. Can’t clearly understand what exactly do you mean and how I supposed to answer this… Probably, you want do understand that maybe I was behaving in some crazy way or in some other way unrationally and this, as consequences, resulted in my impressions… I must say that, of course, this hypotheses should be ruled out (for you). But I can’t clearly see for now how exactly I can do it – what can I tell in order to persuade you? In any case, anyone can decide that “he was obviously was doing something wrong or have wrong attitude” etc. And I don’t see how I can show otherwise in text communication. Anyway, what I can say in general on this topic. I have serious health problem which makes my life really miserable. And for last several YEARS I was searching for people with “special powers” in many countries of the world like a full-time job. This is the only thing I was doing. And I was doing this not for “research”, not out of “curiosity” etc. I was doing this out of urgent need. With great hope. So, I wasn’t inclined, to say the least, to “test” anyone or “waiting for proof” etc. – I just don’t have such option. And I visited every person during these years with deep respect (not outward, but real – first of all, because many of them deserve the deepest respect based on their lives, even if they don’t really have any “powers”). And always left them after some period with gratitude – even if I have never been helped. Also, some (not every) of them made different recommendations for me (or sometimes even complex months-long programs of activities). And I have always very strictly did everything I was told to. I don’t really now know what I can add now to this question, but I think this is OK for the start to describe in general.
     
  6. PeteS

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    Take it that you are in Russia? I'm sorry to hear that you are apparently so troubled, but having had myself quite a few experiences with psychics/ mediums, I really don't think that the answer to your problem lies in that direction.
     
  7. EnolaGaia

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    No, not at all ... I was simply attempting to obtain clues as to how you'd engaged the psychics you'd located - in person, by phone, by postal or email correspondence, etc.

    Some allegedly psychic methods require direct personal contact, and you'd given no indication whether you'd complied with whatever routines or procedures your contacts followed.
     
  8. GNC

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    Sounds like you're leaving yourself vulnerable to all sorts of charlatans and exploiters, Contact, please be careful, no matter how desperate you are, something official is far more sensible as a course of action than someone who claims to have magic powers.
     
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    It sounds like you need to get in touch with better medical help, rather than seeking someone with 'special powers'.
     
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    I think you've answered your own question, Contact. In times of desperation we look for any possible answer. The only real answer is the truth. And you know that already.

    Get used to being sick or make peace with death. Don't waste your time and energy chasing supernatural powers when the world is waiting for you to live your life.
     
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    Yes, I also think so after all that I discovered and know now. But my question is actually not even related to my health condition :) I have wrote this only to pose some background and explain why I have spent several years searching for "people with extra-powers". But my question is really very simple "Are people with extra-powers exist and can anyone show any verifiable method to know this"?

    To tell you the truth for me this is much more "religious" or "spiritual" (better to say "world view") question than even medical one. If put it very short (extremly short and primitive) - all spiritual and religious books of ANY kind (all major religious, theosophy, all esoteric paths - everything) based on information obtained with "special powers" of different sort - mystical revelations etc. But if even simplest "special powers" impossible to discover on this planet, than what one can think about all this "spiritual knowledge" which supposed to be obtained with much more sofisticated "methods"?!
     
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    Thank you very much for your kind care. But I must say that I was aware of this vulnerability from the beginning of my quest. So, I was very careful. And I rarely contacted anyone who is “in business”. I have met a lot of very “authentic” people during these years. Just as an example. One woman was retired military engineer. She was leading absolutely “normal” life, but was sure that from her childhood she has the ability which usually described as “clairvoyance”. Only her closest relatives and friends knew about this. And she never offered this as a service. One of her friends who knew that I was looking for someone “authentic”, asked her to introduce me. She agreed and spent quiet a lot of time with me trying to help using her ‘special methods’. We just met at her home several time. I’m grateful for her, she was very nice and everything. But still – I can’t tell that I can share her confidence that she had “powers” (I’m not denying it – only telling that I didn’t get anything that I can use as “verification” – only this).
     
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    Oh! Now I understand! Mostly (95%) it was in person. It was three times by phone (skype) and twice by e-mail. But in absolute majority of cases it was personal contact.




    And I must tell again – I’m not ‘sceptic’ at all. I can admit that I was just, for example, deeply unlucky. I’m very open minded – even now. But I can base my conclusions only on my experience. Which is for now like it is.
     
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    This is different question. I can go in very deep detail about this also (what I have done, what I'm doing now, the modern state of research in this field, including links to articles etc.), but this is not why I have posted exectly here.
     
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    I understand now:). What you are wanting to know is whether there are psychics, mediums and the like who have genuine powers. Your long opening post has probably confused . Not to worry.
    I'm afraid it is an unanswerable question and one that any forum will not be able to give definitive answers to. If you read previous posts on this forum you will see that some believe in these powers and some don't and few will change their view. I did change my view form being sceptical to a believer solely based on my experiences. I'm afraid that proof you require is virtually impossible to provide.
    As others have suggested above please please be careful and don't allow yourself to be taken in by charlatans. I hope you find somehow what you are looking for. Take care.
     
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    I generally agree with PeteS ...

    My experience has led me to believe there are people who have a 'knack' or 'talent' for handling certain types of situations or actions or understandings. Some such 'knacks' have been attributed to me (with good reason), but I don't consider them a 'power' that one either does or doesn't possess (as with, e.g., physical strength, running speed, etc.).

    Consider the famous line spoken by the character Old Lodge Skins (a wise old Cheyenne sage) in the movie Little Big Man:

    "Well, sometimes the magic works. Sometimes, it doesn't."

    Whether or not you believe in 'magic' the more important thing is whether it 'works' (for you; for your purpose) or not.

    I do believe that consultation with psychics (etc.) can bring at least temporary relief for problems that are mainly emotional or psychological in nature. I do not believe that psychic (etc.) practitioners can heal or cure problems that are physical or systemic in nature.

    The key difference isn't emotional / psychological versus physical / systemic - it's relief versus cure.

    I'd put it this way ... If such consultations provide you with relief, they may be sufficient for your immediate purposes. However, I doubt such consultations can result in a permanent cure, and I'd advise you to avoid overestimating what can be achieved by continuing them.
     
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    Strangely in all the consultations I had, there was no hint of any relief being offered (not that I was after any anyway), in fact quite the opposite. Hence my original suggestion to the OP that that arena was not the place to go for a cure. I agree though that most seem to go to such people for some sort of relief as you suggest.
     
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    Dear EnolaGaia and Petes, thank you very much for your kind replies. In general my expirience leads me to similar conclusions, so everything what you are writing is perfectly fits into my present thoughts...

    In my case, btw, I had many times encountered what can be named as "offer of emotional relief", but in my case it always was irrelevant, because this is not what I'm after. And I always get surprised on it because for me the situation when person who present himself/herself like "healer" focus on emotional issues looks like surgeon who instead of doing operation for the patient trying to emotionally uplift him without any direct action like a specialist. After many such attempts I started to realise that many people probably name exactly this attemp to "emotional upliftment" as "healing", Which is nonsense for me...

    I'm also started to come to conclusing that probably the only "proof" theoreticaly possible is personal expirince which is, by its nature, is untransferable to other person... But I sadly don't have such treasure in my life, like such expirience...


    EnolaGaia, I want to ask, if it possible of course. What are these 'knacks' which are attributed to you?
     
  19. EnolaGaia

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    The most noteworthy such 'knack' was the repeated ability to find small and personally valued items lost outdoors in areas ranging up to multiple acres of farm property - items which had not yet been located after days or even weeks of searching. People would call me in to locate such objects as a last resort, and I consistently found them in the same manner.

    I gave an overview description of these episodes in this 2017 post:

    http://forum.forteantimes.com/index.php?threads/perfecting-your-own-ritual.62192/#post-1653697
     
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