'Moonraker's' Dolly - Braces or Not?

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  1. Simon

    Simon Yeti

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    It came sooner than I expected, and...........no braces!
     
  2. rynner2

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    I already saw it - no braces, sadly!
     
  3. Tribble

    Tribble Furry Idiot

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    Ah, so they're showing the digitally altered version ;)
     
  4. jimv1

    jimv1 Analogue Boy

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    And apparently, there was ANOTHER Moonraker film. Directed by Orson Welles to boot.
    So do we add Dirk Bogarde to the list of Bonds?

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    Like most people who know a little about these things, I always thought Dr No was the first (not counting the 1954 TV Casino Royale). Well I was wrong. And I was also under the impression that the only Bond film Orson Welles had anything to do with was that other Casino Royale, the 1967 spoof, in which he guested as the villainous Le Chiffre. Wrong again…

    Look in any movie guide and I’ll guarantee you won’t find an entry for a 1956 film adaptation of Ian Fleming’s James Bond novel Moonraker, aka Hell Is Here, directed by none other than Orson Welles.


    https://iansadler.wordpress.com/2011/07/05/moonraker-the-forgotten-1956-james-bond-film/

    An interesting read.
     
  5. EnolaGaia

    EnolaGaia I knew the job was dangerous when I took it ...

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    ... And Peter Lorre to the list of Dollies? :evil:
     
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  6. JamesWhitehead

    JamesWhitehead Piffle Prospector

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    Right down to the bottom. :)
     
  7. jimv1

    jimv1 Analogue Boy

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    Yes. I am reminded of another Orson Welles film.
     
  8. Peripart

    Peripart Justified and Ancient

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    Nearly didn't get all the way to the bottom. Just as well I did. Well played, Mr Bermuda!
     
  9. Mystereaux1

    Mystereaux1 Phantom

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    There was an ad on 'Carrot's Commercial Breakdown' or something like it, way back, which played on that scene and added the braces. They weren't in the film, you were just meant to worry that he was going to eat the girl and then be relieved that he didn't.
    It's late, but something like that anyway...
     
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  10. baleeber

    baleeber gullible skeptic

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    What a wonderful topic! Off the top of my head, I would have said she had braces too!

    As well, I would have thought there had to be an 80s movie where two kids get their braces stuck together.

    I can remember a friend of mine who claimed it happened to him (this would have been around 1983 or 84, I guess.

    Lol. Mandela Effect, indeed!
     
  11. baleeber

    baleeber gullible skeptic

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    Funny thing: I asked about this on facebook! Five different people described the girl as having braces.
     
  12. Swifty

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  13. Mythopoeika

    Mythopoeika I am a meat popsicle

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    Wow. Her teeth do look pretty awful, looking at those pictures.
    It also does look like evidence of tampering. But...how and why?
     
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  14. Zeke Newbold

    Zeke Newbold Carbon based biped.

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    Well, I don't want to say `I told you so`, but I was sayig (and you can look back) on this thread a long long time ago that there was something odd about her bottom teeth (with other posters denying this).

    My own theory was (on the basis of this) was that she had lower braces only (as a compromise option between the need to preserve the comedy in the script and in keeping with the demand from the actress and her agents that she is not made too ugly - perhaps). On the big screen this would have been visible enoguh to telegraph the fact that she was wearing braces - but this is far less visible on the smaller screen formats we watch it on nowadays, hence the confusion.

    I think this proposition still has some legs. Either way, thiere seems to be something truly Fortean going on here.
     
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  15. GNC

    GNC King-Sized Canary

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    Just looks like normal, non-braces-wearing teeth to me, with a few digital artefacts thanks to the author messing about with the images. Should have looked at the Blu-ray!
     
  16. Mythopoeika

    Mythopoeika I am a meat popsicle

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    OK, good point. Probably just 'digital dirt'.
     
  17. Vardoger

    Vardoger Skeptical by nature

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    Even better. Wait for the 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray version.
     
  18. Mythopoeika

    Mythopoeika I am a meat popsicle

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    If only I could afford the equipment for that.
     
  19. Zeke Newbold

    Zeke Newbold Carbon based biped.

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    But don't you find it odd that the digital dirt just happens to coagulate around the woman's teeth - which just happen to be the very point of contention?

    It would settle it for me if someone could find a still from the same film in whch another actor (not Dolly or Jaws) is grinning or smiling and we could see similar `digital dirt` connected with their gnashers. A sort of control sample, if you like.
     
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  20. GNC

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    Just get the DVD, make a screengrab and blow it up so much that the image is distorted. Simple as that.
     

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