Moon Landing: Hoaxed?

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  1. Mythopoeika

    Mythopoeika I am a meat popsicle

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    Wonder who built the dome and what's outside it?
     
  2. dr wu

    dr wu Doctor Prog

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    Dome....?
    oh...post 1020...never mind....
    :)
     
  3. INT21

    INT21 Justified & Ancient

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    Dr_Baltar,

    What is the point in spending money on Europa when the surface temperature never rises above about -160 Centigrade ?

    INT21
     
  4. jimv1

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    There are worse things to be.
     
  5. jimv1

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    Because vents.
     
  6. jimv1

    jimv1 Analogue Boy

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    Yeah. The whole thing is a conspiracy that it’s really far away so you don’t try and hike there.
     
  7. INT21

    INT21 Justified & Ancient

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    ..Because vents...

    The place is and always will be uninhabitable. Vents or no vents.

    Waste of money.

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  8. Mythopoeika

    Mythopoeika I am a meat popsicle

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    Unless we find signs of alien life.
     
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  9. Swifty

    Swifty Generation Y

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    You are Harry Truman and I claim my 50p
     
  10. Dr_Baltar

    Dr_Baltar Left Foot of God

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    I dare say the astrobiologists at NASA know a bit more about that subject than anyone here. The Galileo probe indicated there was likely a subsurface ocean on Europa. This may harbour microbial life. You may regard discovering extraterrestrial life as a waste of money, others do not.
     
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  11. Mythopoeika

    Mythopoeika I am a meat popsicle

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    Surely you mean Truman Burbank?
     
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  12. Mythopoeika

    Mythopoeika I am a meat popsicle

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    I think finding even microbial life would be the best spent money ever.
    Afterwards, we'd all want to go into space, live up there, etc. Dramatic new opportunities await!
     
  13. jimv1

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    As i’ve said before on another thread, we are mostly made up of microbial and bacterial life.
     
  15. INT21

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    Finding any form of life will only answer one question.

    'Can life in any form exist on any other place than Earth ?'.

    That in itself will be interesting.

    However..

    It would be purely of scientific interest as we could not use Europa for any purpose.

    Mars is considered to be only marginally habitable and it is much warmer; and closer.

    If one is going to do this kind of exploration then at least do it on a planet that we can send people to.

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  16. INT21

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    Jimv1,

    ..As i’ve said before on another thread, we are mostly made up of microbial and bacterial life..

    And these are made of Quarks and possibly even smaller bits. At this level one is made up mostly of the gaps between the sub-atomic particles. I.e. mostly of nothing.

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  17. jimv1

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    That’s the bacteria talking.
    When you say we couldn’t use Europa for any purpose, I say ‘Yet’.
    Ice and water are a valuable commodity in planetary exploration and human expansion.
    When you say Mars is closer and marginally habitable, you’re only basing that on the information we’ve gleaned from probing and exploring the planet.

    Your statement that finding life in the universe other than on this planet would be ‘interesting’ is probably one of the greatest understatements a Fortean could ever encounter.
     
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  18. Mythopoeika

    Mythopoeika I am a meat popsicle

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    Also, other places, such as Titan...unlimited supply of methane.
     
  19. ramonmercado

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    Hmmm, cows on Titan?
     
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  20. jimv1

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    Another pointless pursuit...

     
  21. Roland Deschain

    Roland Deschain All things serve the beam

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    Well it's highly unlikely that anywhere other than our planet earth will be a natural shirt sleeve environment for humans however many planets and moons have resources in abundance which can be used in an enclosed environment which supports human beings. All you need is enough power and some machinery and you can have a stab at a self sustaining colony.
     
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  22. AlchoPwn

    AlchoPwn Ephemeral Spectre

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    The old tape of the landing when it was filmed has been brushed up and digitized because it was pretty shabby. If you compare the information from landing to landing however, the quality of the recordings does improve. I gave this conspiracy theory a solid investigation, and it has no legs imo.

    The assumption you are making is that the Moon is all rock. A good deal of it is actually covered in "lunar soil" and that is what the lander descended onto. I hope that helps clear that question up for you.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_soil
     
  23. EnolaGaia

    EnolaGaia I knew the job was dangerous when I took it ...

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    The Lunar Surface Sensing Probes collapsed as the LEM settled onto the surface, just as they were designed to do. See post #999.
     
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  24. Ringo

    Ringo likes to annoy Yith...

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    I'm all good on these points as I've had my questions answered previously. As I mentioned, I'm not very up on the lunar missions or the lunar environment so I turn to people with more knowledge than myself. To assume, is to make an ass of u and me and assuming doth butter no parsnips, so thanks for the info AlchoPwn.

    #joelycett
     
  25. INT21

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    Jimv1,

    If you are going to quote me (and by all means do so) then put the quote into context.

    ..
    Finding any form of life will only answer one question.

    'Can life in any form exist on any other place than Earth ?'.

    That in itself will be interesting.

    However..

    It would be purely of scientific interest as we could not use Europa for any purpose.
    ..

    It would rank somewhere along the lines of finding a indication that there was life as we know it on a planet 300 million light years away. Interesting, but no practical use to us.

    Unless, of course, you're a fan of faster than light travel.

    INT21 :)
     
  26. dr wu

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    I'm certainly no expert on exobiology...but there's no telling what we might discover if we find extraterrestrial biology/organics. Some very valuable discoveries have been made on earth in various locations regarding drugs for people both in situ and synthetic forms after the fact after we learned the chemistry.
    We might find an organic chain from some microbial form that could cure all cancer for instance.
    Yes it might be a slim chance based on odds but...if we don't at least look we would never know. There's also the possibility of discovering a new energy source...again I know nothing about physics but it's possible,
    Of course.....would it be worth the time and expense involved....? Who knows...?
     

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