John Whiteside Parsons & The Babylon Working

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  1. MrRING

    MrRING Justified & Ancient

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    Just read the banned Alan Moore/Melinda Gibblie comic about this event, Jack Parsons & his association with L. Ron Hubbard, the homoculous creating "moon-child" Babylon Working, and Parson's influence in the creation of high output rocket fuel.

    I think it's fascinating, thought I'd include a bit about it here - anybody else think this is interesting stuff? This link has good into:

    http://labyrinth13.com/Parsons.htm

    As does this one:

    http://www.disinfo.com/archive/pages/article/id592/pg1/

    From Disinformation:

    When the history of the American space program is finally written, no figure will stand out quite like John Whiteside Parsons. Remarkably handsome, dashing and brilliant, 'Jack' Parsons was one of the founders of the experimental rocket research group at Cal Tech and the group's seven acre Arroyo Seco testing facility would eventually become Jet Propulsion Laboratory, NASA's rocket design center.

    Werner von Braun claimed it was the self-taught Parsons, not himself, who was the true father of the American space program for his contribution to the development of solid rocket fuel. Although Parsons has been memorialized with a statue at JPL and has had a crater on the dark side of the moon named in his honor, his story remains shrouded in mystery – for what is little known about this legend of aerospace engineering is that Parsons was an avid practitioner of the occult sciences, and for several years, Aleister Crowley's hand-picked leader of the US branch of the Ordo Templi Orientis, the Southern California-based Agape´ Lodge.

    Parsons was born in Los Angeles on October 2, 1914, the son of a wealthy and well connected family living in a sprawling mansion on Pasadena's 'Millionaire Row.' His father worked for Woodrow Wilson. After his parents divorce, the solitary childhood of Parsons imbued him with a deep hatred of authority, and a contempt for any sort of interference in his activity. Parsons interest in the occult apparently commenced at an early age and in one of his diaries he claimed to have visibly evoked Satan at the tender age of 13.

    After discovering Crowley's philosophy of Thelema (Greek for 'true will'), Parsons joined the Agape´ Lodge in 1941. Wilfred T. Smith, the expatriate Englishman who started the order in the early 1930s with a charter from the Great Beast himself, wrote of Parsons in a letter to Crowley: "I think I have at long last a really excellent man, John Parsons. And starting next Tuesday he begins a course of talks with a view to enlarging our scope. He has an excellent mind and much better intellect than myself . . . John Parsons is going to be valuable."
     
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    There's an entertaining story here in the style of RAW that covers the story quite well.
     
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    Where did you get your hands on it? And banned?

    And yes is fascinating :)

    pi23: That link doesn't seem to work but I'll try it agin later.

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    The comic was originally going to be one of "The Cobweb" stories in Alan Moore's recent Tomorrow Stories anthology series, but DC pulled it due to talking about L.Ron Hubbard & a fear of lawsuits (Even though the Big Book of Conspiricies or Weirdos had already done a story on the events, & wasn't banned by DC).

    Moore bought the rights to the story back, and changed the name of the Cobweb, and it was published in a huge anthology tome from Top Shelf publishers called "Top Shelf Asks The Big Questions". It was certainly interesting, indicates a bit of where Promethia is going....
     
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    Excellent - I'd not heard of that and I'm a big fan of Moore's more esoteric stuff.

    Loads of Parsons stuff here: http://www.babalon.net/
     
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    Have you read Sex and Rockets?
     
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    And as I can't find another Jack Parsons thread:

    Strange Angel : The Otherworldly Life of Rocket Scientist John Whiteside Parsons
    by George Pendle (2005)

    www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/015100997X/
    www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/015100997X/
     
  9. Anonymous

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    Parsons messed up the use of the Enochian in the Babalon(d) working. He used the 7th KEY when , instead he should have used a modified Enochian Call of the 30th Aethyrs (DEO).
    To endure the enochian aethyrs the practioner has to recite the call through each Aethyr. So a call a day would be needed (TEX,RII, etc.)

    Secondly using the presence of Babalon(d) to help create an "elemental" for him is incredibly disrepectful.Babalon(d) wouldnt have responded positively to such a petty request .Thats probably why he lost his wife and money to Hubbard. Also the fact he wasnt in a positive frame of mind needed to work such a "cthartic"ritual.A strong focused mind is needed in a magickal ritual. Parsons had all sorts of personal issues going on that would have affected his ability to remain detatched in his magickal working.
     
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    Interesting bit about the paramour of Parsons, Marjorie Cameron, on WIKI:
     
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    Parsons incompetence helped to put Enochian studies in a negative light. Which couldnt be further from the truth.
    If someone looks at the original notes of Dee , before he commenced work with the "messengers" he prayed and fasted for several days at a time. The enochian entites were incredibly hard and stern on Dee.
    Compare that to Parsons.......Also from the notes that have survived , at no point did Parsons actually magickally ask for permission to use the Enochian keys or the call from the Enochian entites. The enochian entites dont think much about us humans, seeing us has a corruption of creation. So imagine how they would have responded to Parsons......

    Secondly Cameron hasnt contributed or taken forward magick/occultism in any verifiable form. Parsons working was a failure.
     
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    Parsons

    One of the most commonly-circulated rumors concerning Jack Parsons is that he not only seduced his mother but filmed the sex act.

    Any ideas as to the truth of this?

    Parson's mother committed suicide a few hours after Jack died.
     
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    Re: Parsons

    It's very undetermined, but the only "proof" of the sex film is rumor. I don't think has been anything factual on that front, but it persists. The babylon.net site has an interesting exchange about the film and it's alledged existance between the site owner and one of the biographers.

    His mom did commit suicide a few hours after getting the news of his death.

    Interestingly, Parsons died while working on making special effects. He was about to go on vacation, but got a call for an order of the tiny explosive packets that make it appear that an object is being hit by gun-fire. Trying to whip up a batch quickly, he was using a coffee can to mix ingrediants when the mixture fell. He tried to catch it, but it went off and too off his arm and half his face. He was still alive when found, but died shortly thereafter...
     
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    Yes, and apparently still conscious when help arrived. One account has Parsons giving advice to the ambulance team from the stretcher.
     
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    Interesting little article from Atlas Obscura, 1 October 2016.

    http://www.atlasobscura.com/events/obscura-society-la-the-life-and-legacy-of-jack-parsons
     
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    Fascinating man and life.

    I recommend -

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    Excellent book.
     
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    A recent episode of the podcast Monster Talk on Parsons,

    https://www.skeptic.com/podcasts/monstertalk/18/05/23/
     
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    This reference to the TV series is on 3 or 4 threads now. What do we think of it?

    Me, I was half bored with the slow burn of season 1, but fully expect S2 to blow my fkn arse off. S1 had its moments tho. I was a bit miffed that it was so bloody glossy. Wished for more of a grunge production.
     

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