Islam: Theology & Culture

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  1. Mythopoeika

    Mythopoeika I am a meat popsicle

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    Is that real?
    I mean, dogs are considered unclean in Arabic-speaking countries, so it's unlikely that they'd translate Spot.
     
  2. GNC

    GNC King-Sized Canary

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    It translates as "Spot the Overdeveloped Hamster".
     
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  3. Yithian

    Yithian Parish Watch Staff Member

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    For sale on Amazon.
     
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    ramonmercado CyberPunk

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    No comment.

    Malaysian Muslim lesbian couple caned in front of 100 people for attempting to have sex

    Monday, September 03, 2018 - 02:01 PM

    Two Malaysian Muslim women convicted under Islamic laws of attempting to have sex were caned today in a rare public whipping that was slammed by lawmakers and rights activists as a form of torture.

    Lawyers and activists said the women, aged 22 and 32, were seated on stools facing the judges and given six strokes from a light rattan cane on their backs by female prison officers.

    More than 100 people witnessed the caning in a Shariah courtroom in northeast Terengganu state, they said.

    Muslim Lawyers’ Association deputy president Abdul Rahim Sinwan said unlike caning under civil laws, the punishment under Islamic laws isn’t painful or harsh and was meant to educate the women so they will repent. The women, dressed in white headscarves and clothing, didn’t cry or scream but “showed remorse,” he said.

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/break...people-for-attempting-to-have-sex-866406.html
     
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  5. GNC

    GNC King-Sized Canary

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    As long as it wasn't painful or harsh, that's all right then. What the hell business is it of the authorities anyway?
     
  6. INT21

    INT21 Justified & Ancient

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    Not the kind of question one would ask the Malaysian authorities.

    Anyway, some women in England have sex in front of a hundred men; they call it dogging.

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    Did they think it was a load of Shi'ite?

    Two men have been arrested in Iran for their involvement in a production of Shakespeare’s A Midsummer Night’s Dream.

    Director Maryam Kazemi and venue manager Saeed Asadi were detained on the orders of the judiciary, a senior official told the ISNA news agency.

    The popular play had already been showing for seven nights at City Theatre, one of Tehran’s most famous venues and only had one night left to run when the pair were arrested, according to AFP. ...

    A trailer of the performance shared on social media showed female actors dancing with men, an illegal act under the Islamic Republic’s strict rules, the Associated Press reports.

    The main objections to the performance were about the “type of music played” and the actors’ “movements” in the trailer, said Shahram Karami, of the ministry of culture and Islamic guidance.

    http://www.theweek.co.uk/96380/iran...letter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter
     
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    ramonmercado CyberPunk

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    Something odd going on here: Mullahs refurbish Lenin statue. Maybe they think Lenin was the 12th Imam.

    The media in Central Asia has been intrigued by the story that a group of Muslim clerics in southern Tajikistan have spent their congregations' weekly donations on fixing a statue of Lenin, the leader of the Bolshevik Revolution that imposed 70 years of atheism on their country.

    The imam-khatib prayer leaders of the mosques in Shahritus spent the collection money on putting the statue of the Russian Communist leader back on the plinth in the town centre, from which he was unceremoniously toppled two years ago, Radio Liberty's Radio Ozodi Tajik Service reported.

    The statue has also been repainted gold, and a missing hand has been replaced.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-45446494
     
  9. Swifty

    Swifty doesn't negotiate with terriers

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    Swifty doesn't negotiate with terriers

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    So they're also re educating non Muslims?
     
  12. AlchoPwn

    AlchoPwn Abominable Snowman

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    I think their argument that Lenin is part of their history and without him they would all be illiterates like Afghans is a reasonable position. Certainly it is odd to find Muslims restoring the golden statue of a Communist leader. It may even be unprecedented.

    If by more autonomy you mean they want to recreate the Turkistan Republic that has failed twice back in the early 20th Century, that would be more correct. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_conflict
    The separatists are driven by Islamic ideology and a sizeable portion of the movement has known Al Quaeda links.

    One might argue they are combating religious extremism. While this sort of measure is not without precedent in Chinese history, it has been a long time since it has been tried. I suppose the real question is whether the camps will work, or merely intensify the problem.
     
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    maximus otter Recovering policeman

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    I’m guessing that it’s just PR. They hope that if they throw the wolf a bone, he’ll defer eating them.

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    Communists are only a minor force there same as in Russia. Maybe Alchopawn is correct in his assessment.
     
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    It's more than just Political Islamists/Fundamentalists involved though. Otherwise why would they have to put a million people in camps? It's also a question of culture unrelated to religion and an aspiration for Autonomy. Han settlers now make up 40% of the population, a situation akin to Tibet.

    The Chinese Regime is good at portraying any dissent as being inspired by the West or rooted in Religion.There are Uighurs who are motivated by Nationalism and even more moderate Muslims who support Autonomy. The fundamentalists have also killed Imams including the Grand Mufti of Xinjiang.
     
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    Now they've made it legal.

    China's western Xinjiang region has written "vocational training centres" for Muslim Uighurs into law amid growing international concern over large-scale disappearances there.

    Xinjiang says the centres will tackle extremism through "thought transformation".

    Rights groups say detainees are made to swear loyalty to President Xi Jinping and criticise or renounce their faith.

    In August, China denied allegations that it had locked up a million people.

    But officials attending a UN human rights meeting admitted that Uighurs "deceived by religious extremism" were undergoing re-education and resettlement.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-45812419
     
  17. Mythopoeika

    Mythopoeika I am a meat popsicle

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    Ha! I was right about 're-education'.
     
  18. AlchoPwn

    AlchoPwn Abominable Snowman

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    Well, given that Islam promotes slavery and genocide, and so does the Chinese Communist Party, it should be an easy shift of allegiance without any real shift in the moral compass.
     
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    Vardoger Bring the Beat Back!!

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    The whole region of Xinjiang will soon be in a civil war if the Chinese government continues its actions against the Uyghur people. Reeducation won't work, instead it will anger people.
     
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    AlchoPwn Abominable Snowman

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    I think it is a little too late for that. The Uyghurs have been in a state of rebellion or near rebellion against China for centuries. They have even been independent occasionally. The fact is that they are an Al Quaeda allied movement, and

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_conflict

    The origins of the conflict date back to when Muslim forces invaded the region and committed their usual atrocities:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamization_of_Xinjiang

    Frankly, the Uyghurs were rising up in arms for years, and the current re-education camps (Yep, they're basically concentration camps) are working fairly well for China in combating the Uyghur Islamic terrorism. Concentration camps are, after all, a time honored method of successfully fighting an insurgency.
     

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