I Miss Art Bell

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  1. GerdaWordyer

    GerdaWordyer Abominable Snowman

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    The "After Dark" radio show seems to have devolved into a conspiracy loons arena. But I was hoping that since it's October they would have more spooky topics, but so far, no ghostie or EVP shows. It seems to have a more political righty bent too. And it's loaded with those Carnvora infomercials.
    So I miss Art Bell.
     
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    Mythopoeika I am a meat popsicle

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    Carnvora infomercials?
     
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    I wonder if the “infomercial” features a “spokesmodel”?

    Doubleplus ungood.

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    Vardoger Skeptical by nature

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    More like immune defense supplements.
     
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    Ulalume tart of darkness

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    You're not the only one who feels that way, by a long shot. Coast To Coast AM was never the same without Art Bell, who was just the person you wanted to hear telling creepy stories and fielding weird calls in the middle of the night. The rightward conspiracy bent was always there but I imagine it's even more so now. I haven't had the nerve to listen to it lately, I can't escape Alex Jones as it is :rolleyes:

    Does your internet server support video now ? If so, there are loads of Art Bell's various radio shows on YouTube, including his famous Halloween ghost programs. I know it's a sad substitute, but at least they're available.
     
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    Vardoger Skeptical by nature

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    News story about Art Bell from 1999:

     
  8. Austin Popper

    Austin Popper Emperor of Antarctica

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    I don't miss Art. Yes, he was better at what he did than anyone I know of who came after him, but he was (and probably still is) full of shit.

    He's had several more abortive attempts at returning to a regular radio presence, but has sabotaged each with his erratic behavior. He got dumped from Sirius XM soon after he started, for insisting he had the right to post his previous shows on his web site. After he got canned, he left a lot of people hanging, and I don't know what became of the site. I'm sure a lot of people lost money. After that, things got crummier and then well into the batshit crazy realm. Even his SXM show featured the "usual suspects", a handful of cranks, frauds, and proven BS artists.

    You can still hear him on HAM radio, no doubt, blasting out of his high desert bunker with (most likely illegal) great power and a giant antenna farm. He's a real piece of work.
     
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    kamalktk Justified & Ancient

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    Carnivora.
    From their website:
    President Ronald Reagan used Carnivora successfully in 1985 when he had it sent to the White House
    Source: "German ****** Therapies", pg. 101
    Author, Dr. Morton Walker - Winner of 27 Journalism awards
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    We can play "Guess what word they made ******" !
     
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    kamalktk Justified & Ancient

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    Art is still associated with the Midnight in the Desert podcast, he does some spots and promos for them. It's a subscription podcast. The host Heather Wade was Art's producer when he started the podcast and took over for him after an intruder came to his property a few times and threatened him and his family by firing shots at Art's house and studio (this activity was confirmed by the local police on Facebook, not something made up by him).
     
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    I've heard someone claiming that one of his (Art Bell's) recent comebacks ended as he was unhappy with being forced to rely on Skype etc. for interviews (pretty much the usual technical solution for internet 'radio stations').

    If this is true I can understand his position. I've lost count of the number of podcasts I've switched off due to the low audio quality, constant dropouts and that annoying whooshing noise gate effect muddying the beginnings and endings of words. It's a good thing, in theory, that 'broadcasting' has been opened up to those without access to professional studio set-ups, but a lot of these paranormal / conspiracy shows, although potentially entertaining, are exhausting to listen to. Particularly as presenters and contributors often see no reason not to go about their everyday business on an open mic - you hear people chewing and crunching, slurping drinks, clicking lighters, smoking and vaping and so on. One show that I actually did want to listen to the other day was made inaudible by one of the hosts having a coughing fit for about two minutes and a few minutes later by someone noisily doing the washing up.*

    It is amusing though how technical problems such as a VoIP call dropping or becoming unintelligable are frequently held up as evidence that 'they' (security services or 'The A.I.') are listening in. I've heard this explantion many times on one show in particular which I won't name (rhymes with 'Nev Shaker').

    Label me a snob if you like, but I really don't accept anyone calling their hobby a 'radio station' if they can't manage to achieve the most rudimentary production values. And if they're not actually on the radio.

    I can see why Art Bell might feel the same.


    ...and the version I was listening to, on YouTube, had allegedly been edited!
     
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  12. Austin Popper

    Austin Popper Emperor of Antarctica

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    No argument here on that score. Poor audio quality has been a pet peeve of mine for decades, and the main reason I don't bother with podcasts anymore. It's hard to take even the "professionals" seriously when you can hear people, pets, and machinery in the background, making the already marginal sound quality into hash. But Art's self-inflicted problems go far beyond that, and I daresay he wouldn't be dealing with things like Skype if he could just stay at the job he claims he loves so much. All he had to do was read the contract he signed with Sirius, and follow the terms and he'd still be on the air if he wanted to be. Their other hosts don't seem to have any trouble doing that. I heard one of them say all you need is a T1 line and a good computer to do a show on Sirius. The streaming quality is generally good, and other technical aspects seem to be of reasonable quality.

    As I recall, Art's career at Sirius ended up with a standoff for two years. He stopped doing a show for them, they stopped paying him, and he whined that he was prevented by that contract from doing any other show. Something like that. I gave up on Art years ago.
     
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    Yes, I think he has a reputation as a man who likes to have everything his own way - not neccessarily a disasterous personality trait for a broadcaster dealing with controversial topics.

    But some of his interviews have seemed decidely lacklustre to me: he'd often challenge a guest on the details of their testimony apparently at random, thereby interrupting the flow of a narrative, and yet I've heard him blandly indulge people who - in my judgement at least - appear to be obvious fantasists.

    For example, a guest may say, "...and that's when the 15 foot tall male praying mantis explained that he was in fact my mother", to which AB would reply "Oh?...." or "Huh. Your.........mother?". And that would be that, and on to the next extraordinary claim.

    Obviously as a presenter one has good shows and bad - and times when distracted by tiredness, illness, worries over real-life preoccupations, or just feeling bored or 'not really into it' that night....but that's where the professionalism should come into play.

    Having made the above minor criticisms I'd like to say that I have enjoyed many of his shows over the years very much and would listen to him again if he were to reappear.
     
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    The "Oh, really?" delivered in a blase fashion seems to be the thing George Noory has seized on. It does not seem to have hurt his career, but I never listen to him.

    I don't mean to sound dismissive of Art's work. I did enjoy his show for several years, and he had the first good UFO website I encountered. There were other ones I would have liked better if I'd known about them, but Art's show and website were accessible and interesting. He seemed to get burned out about the time of his first "permanent retirement", and things never did get better. I'm sure a lot of his troubles were very real back then, but the drama got old fast. That, and keeping the flakes and flim-flam men on regular rotation long after they had been exposed really turned me off.
     
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    Ha ha! You are quite correct. I'd forgotten about Noory!

    The habit seems to have spread to many younger podcasters too - who will listen to a long-winded-credibility-stretching anecdote about Angels reprogramming somebody's DNA when they were time-travelling Supersoldiers who had inadvertently caused the Mandela Effect and respond with:

    "Huh."

    It's not Pulitzer-winning journalism is it? ;)
     
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    :)

    Yep, Carnivora's radio adverts make the same remarkable claim about Reagan! I doubt they'd get away with such advertising on this side of the pond.
     
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    Ulalume tart of darkness

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    The show was meant to be a forum where people could report experiences without ridicule, so I think that's where the "I see" and the "Oh really?" came in. Entertainment, not journalism.
     
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    Does your internet server support video now ? If so, there are loads of Art Bell's various radio shows on YouTube, including his famous Halloween ghost programs. I know it's a sad substitute, but at least they're available.[/QUOTE]

    We can afford only the cheapest dial up so we're stuck with broadcast radio. If only NPR would launch a paranomal/Fortean late night show:Givingup:
     
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    Sad news, but hard to beat a dateline like Pahrump:meh:
     
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    I liked the way he balanced a bit of dismissive skepticism (That's the way I heard his "Oh?...." or "Huh. Your.........mother?"type remarks) with his obvious fascination with some creepy stuff. Noori fawns on all his guests with credulous "Aw!. . . Geez!" type responses.
     
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    Also, in true Art Bell fashion, he died on Friday the 13th.
     
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    Assassinated on Friday the 13th!
     
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    He did semi-retire in 2003 and then retired in 2007 from C2C. It was good while it lasted. I never followed him after he left, but as it goes...the show is never quite the same when the innovator leaves the stage.

    "West of the Rockies, turn your radio down"

    (Live call-in shows have a few seconds delay to cut off any crank callers. A radio going on in the background introduces an echo.)

    Gene
     

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