Elon Musk's Starman Conspiracy

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  1. Andy X

    Andy X Portent

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    Yes indeed. This would explain Musk's panicked joyride escape to Mars in that suspended animation suit...and his replacement by a malfunctioning android.
     
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    kamalktk Justified & Ancient

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  3. Swifty

    Swifty Generation Y

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    That's Chuck Norris behind the wheel.
     
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  4. Mythopoeika

    Mythopoeika I am a meat popsicle

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    Only Chuck Norris has lungs powerful enough to suck oxygen out of the near-vacuum of space.
     
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  5. EnolaGaia

    EnolaGaia I knew the job was dangerous when I took it ...

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    It can't be Chuck Norris ...

    First off, His Chuckness wouldn't be caught dead in a vehicle any less manly than a behemoth 4WD truck festooned with bull bars, earthmover-sized knobby tires, and enough auxiliary lights to illuminate Ceres end-to-end.

    Second, Norris would have taken his star turn on the first orbit, shucked off the pantywaist spacesuit, and swan-dived back to earth.

    I suspect Musk's penchant for symbolism and proper acknowledgment of pop history runs much, much deeper ...

    That's the mummified corpse of Evel Knievel, and this space shot is the Valhalla-class eternal jump his legacy warranted ....

    :stig:
     
  6. EnolaGaia

    EnolaGaia I knew the job was dangerous when I took it ...

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    If anything, the Starman-in-the-car bit was a massive misdirection, hiding the much more conspiratorial aspect of the payload - a prototype cultural archive intended to provide data on our species for millions of years ...

    FULL STORY: https://www.space.com/39660-arch-space-archive-falcon-heavy.html
     
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  7. Vardoger

    Vardoger Bring the Beat Back!!

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    The Starman is live again - or is it? :thought: :evil:

     
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  8. Swifty

    Swifty Generation Y

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    I know staring at anything for a long time can make your eyes play tricks on you but I could swear I've just seen a word overlapping Earth ? .. WTF? .. I'm not joking .. I just got enough time to focus on it before the windshield cut it off from view. Is there writing on the windsheild glass of the car? ..
     
  9. Vardoger

    Vardoger Bring the Beat Back!!

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    Watermarking of the video stream?
     
  10. Swifty

    Swifty Generation Y

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    Possibly .. or I've mistaken a few mountains for a word or something ?..
     
  11. Ermintruder

    Ermintruder Existential pixelfixer

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    I know that most people here are simply accepting this all, as depicted reality, but, please, help me out.

    Within your paradigm of understanding, do you believe that the image being seen, right now on the LIVE feed linked by @Vardoger above , is a real-time transmission of where the Roadster/Falcon actually is, relative to the Earth?

    Screenshot_2018-02-13-08-01-43.png
    (The image on the left, of the hand/tablet, appeared, as I was taking the screen-shot. What is it?)

    OR - is this a 'Live' rebroadcast of previously-recorded content?

    Come on, Forteans- the picture above is taken from the so-called live stream timed at 0800UTC/GMT on Tue 13 Feb 2018.

    The stock-car payload has been travelling for a week.

    Why is the Earth still so big in the background?

    Is the Star Man being represented as still orbiting the Earth, in some kind of geostationary sense?

    If so, why was it announced that there had already been some miscalculation (yes? please keep me right, here, people) in the intended interplanetary trajectory, and the flight was already committed to an asteroid belt path? How can that be reconciled with the Roadster rotating not too far above a large, blue (landmass-less) Earth??
     
  12. skinny

    skinny Antediluvian

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    Good questions.
     
  13. Zeke Newbold

    Zeke Newbold Carbon based biped.

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    Granted the returning rocket sequence did look awfully like CGI, and there are indeed
    a lot of unanswered questions about the car in space issue... but these matters are being raised by a source who believes the Moon landing images to be hoaxes, the recent Paris bombings to have been False Flags and Donald Trump to be a fictional character.

    There's a strong element of The Boy Who Cried Wolf scenario to poster's response - or lack of it -to your attempt at whistle blowing.

    (^Said with the greatest respect, btw).
     
  14. Dr_Baltar

    Dr_Baltar Left Foot of God

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    No.

    Yes.

    Here is Elon Musk's Instagram from last week, showing the last available picture of the car. The video feed was powered by the car's battery. That only last 12 hours or so.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/Be6VZEzgAEk/
     
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  15. Ringo

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    Exactly correct. I thought I was watching a Live Feed a few days after the event but then I realised that it wasn't live. It was a recording of the live broadcast before the car headed off on its journey. Musk even told us that the burn had been incorrect and that the Roadster would miss Mars orbit by quite a long shot, this less than one day after the launch.

    So No, the feed is not Live. Yes, the car is on its way.

    It's exact whereabouts can be found via Nasa's Horizon's page: https://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/horizons.cgi#results

    Search Target Body for "SpaceX Roadster" and you'll get all the far-too-complicated-to-understand information you need.
     
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  16. Andy X

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    How come?

    I'm sure the Falcon could've coped with the terrific extra weight of a few batteries and a solar panel or two - even if only to take regular still images. It might be argued that there's not much to see on the way to Mars but I can't see any reason for deliberately not keeping the imaging going. Seems odd.

    PS. Moving pictures from ground-based telescope here
     
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  17. Gizmos Mama

    Gizmos Mama Ephemeral Spectre

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    My crappy $100 car battery lasts 12 hours playing a radio, so why does a state of the art electric car that runs on batteries, (and starts at $101,000) only last 12 hours? C'mon, Elon...you can do better!

    And I know its cold in space, but it's pretty effing cold in Canada too, eh.:nods:
     
  18. Swifty

    Swifty Generation Y

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    The Incredible Journey Of Elon Musk .. inspirational stuff

     
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  19. Ringo

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    I saw this a few days ago and read a comment asking what the other moving object was. About 3 cm in front of the bright dot is another moving object - same speed and trajectory. Is it part of the nose casing or is it just a false artefact created by overlaying lots of still images?
     
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    Your crappy car didn't have to broadcast back to earth.
     
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  21. EnolaGaia

    EnolaGaia I knew the job was dangerous when I took it ...

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    There's no mention of an additional object at the source's (Virtual Telescope Project's) webpage about this:

    https://www.virtualtelescope.eu/2018/02/08/elon-musks-tesla-roadster-imaged-8-feb-2018/

    If you look at the VTP's linked page showing the screenshot of its target acquisition:

    https://www.virtualtelescope.eu/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/TeslaRoadster_08feb2018.jpg

    ... you'll see that the Roadster's position (marked with two red lines) is prior to any position shown in the eventual video.

    As to the odd secondary moving item ...

    There are multiple such items visible at one time or another within the video. These include 'black objects' that intermittently or persistently appear as moving specks. I suspect these black bits are dropped or filtered-out pixels resulting from digital processing.

    One such black bit 'flies' parallel to the secondary bright moving object to the right of the Roadster and stays precisely a few pixels below it in the image.

    This right-side moving object appears to jiggle or jump during its movement (i.e., it's not a smooth continuous trajectory). This makes me suspect it could well be an imagery or processing artifact.

    If you look closely off to the left of the Roadster, you'll see a fainter version of the right side secondary moving object enter the picture, unaccompanied by a black bit. It's at the same approximate (I emphasize 'approximate') vertical elevation as the right side object, moving in the same direction.

    There are two thin black vertical lines bracketing the Roadster imagery. I don't know for sure, but I suspect these represent the image capture region or 'frame' from the Tenegra telescope. The left side secondary moving object is outside this region / frame.
     
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  22. EnolaGaia

    EnolaGaia I knew the job was dangerous when I took it ...

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    Here's a preliminary assessment of the Roadster's long-term prospects ...

    FULL STORY: http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-43063379

    ABSTRACT OF CITED PAPER: https://arxiv.org/abs/1802.04718
     
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    Dr_Baltar Left Foot of God

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    The Tesla batteries were presumably also powering the Bowie music loop as well as the video feed.
     
  24. Swifty

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    Elon Musk tour of SpaceX

     
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    Musk's Space X CRS-14 launched successfully at 9:30 last night (GMT) and will be docking with the I.S.S. today sending basic incubators up to aid plants that have been growing on the I.S.S. since 2014 .. What's he like uh? .. replay of the launch in this link:

    https://www.pscp.tv/w/1lDGLaRNvBmJm
     
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  26. Schrodinger's Zebra

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    Interesting thread. I have to admit to being completely and utterly on the fence with this one - I just can't make my mind up whether the car really is up there or not.

    Plus, if I was going to put a car in space I would have put batteries on it that would last a heck of a lot longer than 12 hours - people want to see footage from further out in space, not just orbiting Earth.

    The logical part of me says it wasn't possible to put enough batteries / or broadcast back to Earth from further away.

    The cynical part of me says they wouldn't have been able to keep up the pretence once it was supposedly out of Earth's orbit.

    :cooll:


    Plus... am I the only one on here that had never heard of Elon Musk until this story broke? Yes, I've heard of Tesla cars, and yes I'm interested in space stuff. But, this guy - to my frame of reference anyway - seems to have appeared out of nowhere.
     
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    Mythopoeika I am a meat popsicle

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    He wasn't famous until he made a load of money with PayPal in 2002, then he founded SpaceX almost immediately after he'd made all that money. He keeps making headlines.
     
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    He was even mentioned on Star Trek.
     
  29. Ermintruder

    Ermintruder Existential pixelfixer

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    I think that's substantially-unproven.

    Headlines come into existence which appear to make reference to what he has allegedly said.

    'You can tell it's real because it looks so fake:' (Musk, in respect of the Roadster in orbit)

    "We are sending a car into space....wait, I just totally made that up"
    (Musk, prior to the SpaceX launch)

    Also, I want to be clear that a flamethrower is a super terrible idea. Definitely don’t buy one. Unless you like fun.”
    (Musk, on selling 20,000 'NotFlamethrowers')

    "The fast way is to drop thermonuclear weapons over the poles."
    (Musk, about making Mars habitable)

    "The rumor that I'm building a spaceship to get back to my home planet Mars is totally untrue. The ancient Egyptians were amazing, but if aliens built the pyramids, they would've left behind a computer or something."
    (Musk, talking about ancient alien theories in Egypt)

    This man does not sound like an engineer. Or a scientist. He sounds like Trump, whilst the anaesthetic wears off.
     
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    I'd got the gist of his audacious techno-escapades, but thought it odd the way yer mainstream news outlets suddenly started acting as though he was better known than Jobs, Gates, etc.
     
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