Contrails and Chemtrails

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  1. RaM

    RaM Abominable Snowman

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    This was taken yesterday now I wounder what this aircraft was up to
    the reg numbers, owner, takeoff and landing points were not shown so
    could not find anything else out about it.
    the other aircraft was a Typhoon up from Warton likely on test and had
    been flying round our local area so likely not connected.

    [​IMG]
     
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  2. Mythopoeika

    Mythopoeika I am a meat popsicle

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    That is kinda suspicious, isn't it?
    But they could have been doing aerial photography or something else that is perfectly innocent.
     
  3. RaM

    RaM Abominable Snowman

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    They could have but the weather was not that good and the aircraft the National Survey use are twin
    engine, we see them now and then, it was only doing 100 knots at about 1800 ft also a bit shy about
    any details like reg number, I honestly dont know but it was what I would expect from a spray pattern
    a big one but who knows.
     
  4. Mythopoeika

    Mythopoeika I am a meat popsicle

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    Could be Google. Google Earth view is pretty hi-res for that area, and the imagery is 2017.
     
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  5. RaM

    RaM Abominable Snowman

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    Pretty good demo of straight lines and spacing what ever they were up to.
    it covers a area roughly 13 by 5 miles.
     
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  6. Mythopoeika

    Mythopoeika I am a meat popsicle

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    Yes, it's amazing that they are all so parallel. Perhaps using an autopilot program?
     
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    Kingsize Wombat Ephemeral Spectre

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    Wow, that is pretty weird. But Google Maps or any other mapping / geo survey type operation is a plausible explanation.
     
  8. EnolaGaia

    EnolaGaia I knew the job was dangerous when I took it ...

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    The pop-up on the display (screen shot in post #361) flags the aircraft as PC6T. That's the ICAO designation for a Pilatus PC-6 Porter (and / or licensed clone) - the venerable single-engine plane noted for its STOL capabilities.

    (If you've seen the movie Air America - the single-prop plane that landed on a seemingly un-land-able hilltop dirt track was a PC-6.)

    In addition to backcountry cargo hauling, the PC-6 is often used for low-speed / lower-altitude missions like surveillance, mapping, remote sensing, and hauling skydivers.

    As to this thread's topic ... The one utility purpose for which the PC-6 is NOT noted is agricultural spraying or any other aerial application missions. I can't find any mention of a PC-6 being used to spray anything (other than bullets).

    https://www.pilatus-aircraft.com/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilatus_PC-6_Porter
     
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  9. maximus otter

    maximus otter Recovering policeman

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    You don't have the "Need to Know."
    Agree it's 99.9% likely to be a photo/mapping/LIDAR survey, but let's throw in a wild card: Is it a surveillance bird à la ISA/Centra Spike, as depicted in Killing Pablo, Mark Bowden's book about Pablo Escobar; also the related TV series, the excellent Narcos? Are they attempting to track a mobile 'phone or laptop?

    Hmmm...

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  10. EnolaGaia

    EnolaGaia I knew the job was dangerous when I took it ...

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    There are a couple of other possibilities ...

    First, it could have been a training or familiarity flight. The Pilatus Porter is a very forgiving aircraft, but its flight characteristics are peculiar by today's standards.

    Second, the Porter has a history of being used as an airborne communications relay platform or hub.

    I don't see why a comm relay or device tracking situation would require or recommend the sort of back-and-forth grid coverage pattern shown in the screen shot. Both these objectives would be more easily served with a simple orbit pattern.

    The depicted flight pattern is a better fit for a searching / scanning / recording mission.
     
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  11. JamesWhitehead

    JamesWhitehead Piffle Prospector

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    The area is low-lying land. Maybe water levels were being monitored, as the first snows of winter were forecast? :ness:
     
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    Spudrick68 Justified & Ancient

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    Strangely enough I was walking the dog about 3:50 this afternoon and somewhere to the south I heard a very loud aircraft which, judging by the noise, appeared to be going at full throttle for six or seven seconds. There were a few seconds break and this was repeated. To the south of Morecambe would be approximately in this area. Being close to Salmesbury BAE I wonder, as has been put forward, this could be the explanation.
     
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    I live near Bankstown airport - and hear that a lot. That's what happens in pilot training.

    They cut the engine intermittently as emergency training. I think these might be future military pilots being trained.
     
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    RaM Abominable Snowman

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    I cant remember the time but there was a Tornado on test in the
    Morcambe bay area yesterday passed over our house 3 or 4 times
    you get that loud and quiet thing as they pull tight tunes.
     
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    RaM Abominable Snowman

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    The PC6 it is a Pilatus PC-6/B2-H4 was up again today
    took off from the same place just West of Oswestry climbed
    to about 1800 ft headed arrow straight towards Sheffield area
    but disappeared after about 30 miles likely to low to track.
     
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    RaM Abominable Snowman

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    What ever it is they do they seem to be active again today only a few miles from
    Owerstry

    [​IMG]
     
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    Mosses and meres again suggest low-lying areas are being surveyed. :dunno:
     
  18. Mythopoeika

    Mythopoeika I am a meat popsicle

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    Might be a nature conservancy project?
     
  19. RaM

    RaM Abominable Snowman

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    If they would put the reg into the transponder it would help
    it's only interesting at least to me because I don't know, I'm
    a nosey sod.
     
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